Raised By Her Podcast
Raised By Her is a mother–daughter podcast exploring the lessons, love, and lived experiences passed down through generations. Hosts Ro Nita and Donnica share honest, intergenerational conversations about womanhood, identity, family, and leadership - and the wisdom we inherit (and sometimes challenge).
Part humor and all heart, Raised By Her is a reminder that every generation has something to teach—and that the stories that raise us continue to shape who we become.
Raised By Her Podcast
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A winter snowstorm, a scary car accident, a trip to New Orleans, and a debate about modern womanhood — this episode covers it all.
This week on Raised By Her, we talk through the chaos of the first Midwest snowstorm and the frightening car accident that kicked off the morning. We reflect on childhood memories, what it means to feel safe, and how moments like these stay with you.
From there, we shift to warmth, culture, and sisterhood as we recap a powerful African-American women’s conference in New Orleans. We explore the history of Mardi Gras World (the factory behind 80% of the world’s parade floats!) and share a moving story from a Katrina survivor who lived in the Superdome.
We also dive into big conversations shaping womanhood today:
• Hyphenated last names — feminist statement or practical headache?
• The digital divide — can you truly know someone you’ve only met online?
• Gen Alpha slang — why every generation creates its own language
• Modern dating, identity, and the impact of pop culture
It’s a funny, heartfelt, deeply intergenerational episode about family, identity, community, and the way stories shape us.
TIMESTAMPS
0:00 - Intro: The First Snowstorm & The Car Accident
1:25 - Remembering Traumatic Childhood Crashes
6:41 - Trip to New Orleans: Sisterhood & Black Women’s Conferences
8:13 - Should Women Hyphenate Their Last Names?
15:43 - Can You Truly Connect with People Online?
19:37 - Inside Mardi Gras World: They Build 80% of the World's Floats
23:03 - A Katrina Survivor’s Story
27:44 - Michelle Obama’s “The Look”
31:00 - Slang Across Generations (“Dope” vs. “Skibidi”)
35:50 - Old School Games vs. The Metaverse
40:15 - Modern Dating & Meeting Spouses on Apps
42:12 - Hallmark Movies & NFL Crossovers
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SPEAKER_02:Yes, we do. It's wonderful.
SPEAKER_00:How are you? I'm I'm okay. I had a chaotic start to the week. Yes, you did. Yes. It was so there was the first big snow here in Ohio. And throughout the Midwest. It wasn't just not the Midwest. It was yellow snow. Okay. It felt personal. And snowing on me as I was trying to get through my Monday morning. Early Monday morning. Early Monday morning. And so I was in a car accident on my way to my first meeting. And um But you're okay. You were okay. I'm okay. Um the guy who I hit was very nice. And so it all worked out. Um, but I hadn't been in a car accident in a really long time.
SPEAKER_02:Well, this is a good thing, yes. This is I'm glad that you have not been in a car accident in a long time. So yeah. Well you have you been in car accidents? I have. Um, a couple of them. And uh it's not a good feeling. In fact, there's a there's a fear element and there's a uh a sense of lost, um, not only your your freedom, but the car being completely and totally um destroyed in a in a sense. The most traumatic car accident that um that I was in, you were a little girl still in sitting in your car seat in the back of the car, and we were leaving church, and um your father hit some black ice, and the car went from one side of the highway to the other side of the highway and turned all the way around, and it was completely and totally uh destroyed. The car was.
SPEAKER_00:I think I remember that. I don't think I was in a well, I don't know. I if this is the same car accident, I remember being uh in the back seat, um, and I remember a like the divider on the highway like coming through and like coming right over me. Yes, that's what I remember. Yes. Well is that the same car accident? Yes, it was a toddler's car seat.
SPEAKER_02:You weren't in the city. Oh well, you weren't in a baby car. You weren't yes, um that that was a pretty um traumatic car accident. And what's fortunate is that we were driving actually your grandmother's car, and um, it was a big car. And so the fireman and the policeman were talking among themselves about how bad the accident was. And were you like, I can hear you? Well, yes, and and what the outcome could have been based upon the way that the car was. And so I I just remembered that particular experience, and so but everything worked out okay.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, everything worked out okay. And everything worked out okay. It did, yes. Mine wasn't unfortunately that that bad. I was uh pulling up to a light, and when I hit the brakes, the car just did stop. It just kept going. And so that's why I hit the person in front of me. But I do understand like that, I wasn't afraid, probably because it wasn't going fast. And I was like, well, I I realized that I was going to hit him. There was nothing I could do about it, but I was also not going fast. So I was like, I wonder, just wonder how this is gonna go. Right. The thought I remember having. And then um the front of the car is all messed up, but he just had like a couple scratches.
SPEAKER_02:No control is what you don't have at that moment when the car doesn't the brakes don't work because and you're you're sliding. And that's what I remember your father saying too, that there was nothing you could do, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And so driving in the winter. Is this why people go and like buy vacation homes and warm places so they can just like literally be in the drive? They don't have to drive in the snow and be in the snow ever.
SPEAKER_02:Unfortunately, generally the first snowstorm in any given area, there is an increase in terms of accidents. Uh, and and the police officers have said it's not that we don't know how to drive in increment weather, it's just that we've been so used to driving in the other weather that we're not paying the same amount of attention, the very first snowstorm.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, they didn't even send a policeman. It was a detective that came out and he was like, it was 8 45-ish in the morning, and he was like, the police are just inundated with calls from car accidents this morning. And you are my 20th stop. So, like the detective team is supporting the actual police team because there's so much car crash activity, and it's not even 9 a.m. And you are my 20th call.
SPEAKER_02:My goodness. I know. But it was a pretty nasty snowstorm, and they had predicted it, but we didn't really think it was gonna be a couple of inches and ice, and it was very cold that morning as well.
SPEAKER_00:It was freezing. I've lost trust in the meteorologists. I've lost trust in like the weather reports. And why is that? Because I feel like they're never accurate.
SPEAKER_02:Well, they are. Um, but uh weather patterns change, uh, and so the the technology is so much better now than it's ever been before.
SPEAKER_00:So you're saying I should have gained I should gain trust over time, not to lose trust.
SPEAKER_02:It's supposed to be better. I I like to understand maybe you're paying attention to it now in a different kind of way, or not.
SPEAKER_00:Or not, yeah. I mean, no, we're impacted by the weather. So I'd like to know if it's gonna rain or not going to rain or how cold it's going to be. Like all these things matter, and I just feel like the weather it's just so unpredictable. But I guess it is what it is. We can't control everything.
SPEAKER_02:That that is true. Your grandfather, who used to work at uh one of the General Motors plants and used to have to get up at five o'clock in the morning and and go to work, got used to being in early morning weather. And when he's retired and uh I used to have to get up early because I was working in broadcasting, he would call me in the morning and he would give me a weather report. And I think it was so funny because I'd say, Daddy, thank you.
SPEAKER_00:But I could actually turn on the TV or I mean his report is probably more reliable though. That one I would have trusted. That would have caused me to regain trust.
SPEAKER_01:So I get it understand that. But yeah, he did that for many, many years. And I thought that was so sweet. That's very sweet. Yeah, that's very sweet.
SPEAKER_00:But uh, so that was a start to my week and and all the winter nests, but you have been in non-winter weather. You been down south in the sun. I was in Louisiana. How was it? It was 78 degrees and wonderful. Talking about yeah, it was I I understand the pool.
SPEAKER_02:Yes. Yes, it was uh this was my trip to New Orleans for uh an African-American women's social organization conference that that I went to, and it was just wonderful. It was fun, it was a lot of laughter. Um, people seemed to be relaxed and glad to be together. And this conference and this organization is made up of more mature women. So they were, although there are some younger women, your age, but there are uh a number of women that were my age and and older. And so the interaction, the memories, the thoughts, and how we're getting together at a time when there are so many challenges in the world, and we still make it a priority to have this sisterhood kinship and to be able to come together and to be able to share the good times and to support one another in the challenging times.
SPEAKER_00:It's a blessing to have that type of sisterhood and camaraderie. So, what do you all talk about? I mean, I know what me and my peers talk about, but but what do folks in their 70s talk about? Because I'm not in the room.
SPEAKER_02:I'm not in the room. Well, um, grandchildren uh a lot, so I didn't have anything to really um to offer that particular conversation. Um, one of the conversations that we were talking about, our our children and what our children were doing uh professionally, um, and one of the ladies at the table said, Well, you know, um what's been interesting is my daughter got married and she has um hyphenated her name. And there were five ladies at the table at that particular moment. And we all said, Well, we hyphenated our name way back then, way back when. Oh, okay. And I said, My daughter has hyphenated um her name. And so we're getting into a conversation about strong progressive women, very, very progressive, progressive women, and why that was really necessary, or why is it necessary today?
SPEAKER_00:Oh, necessary? I don't know that it's necessary, but I love the fact that it's a choice. I mean, I'm like you said, you raised me with a hyphenated name. So people have thought I've married since the age of like 11. I'll bribe a bit of a last name. Um, and but I've I've always loved having a hyphenated last name. Actually, that's not true. When I was younger, you know, like learning to write, I was gonna say read and write, but probably mostly write. I did find it challenging because everybody else could, you know, like write their name with Yes, exactly. And I'm still like, you know, learning all the extra stuff. Once I got past that part, um, I've loved having a hyphenated last name. And then when I got married, that's when it really came up. I'm like, uh-oh. Um, because I didn't want five names. I didn't want my first name, middle name, two last names, and then my husband's name too. And so um I think he and I talked about it a little bit, and he was so cool. And I appreciate him. At least I remember the conversation being like this, and he was like, okay, if it's important to you, um, you know, I get it. And then actually, much later, he was like, it actually did bother me a little bit. But um, now getting to know you even more and your family, I can understand why you wanted to keep that kinship with your family.
SPEAKER_02:The conversation really had to do with the point of professionalism in one's life and what you're connected to. And so the three ladies at the table that had the hyphenated last names talked about the fact that in their profession, it was easier for them. One was in um health care, the other was a professional uh in higher education. And of course, I was in broadcasting. And so being able to connect with my maiden name and then my married name was something that was significant in terms of being able to sort of move your profession forward and people easily being able to identify with you. For your age group and the uh conversation we were having about our daughters, it appeared to be not only something that was uh acceptable and popular, but they started talking about men like your husband. The fact that men who could be comfortable with a wife who had uh a hyphenated last name or kept their own name for whatever reason is not necessarily something that men of yesterday would have embraced in a way that was um easy and significant. And I can remember the conversation with you or with your dad. He said, Well, I don't care what you call yourself, as long as you're my wife, you know. So that was that was okay. The man before his time in that way. In that way. But uh one of my uncles and then some of his family members couldn't understand that they were not familiar with that kind of mindset. And so there was a lot of family discussion.
SPEAKER_00:Lots of family discussion. Well, it's a nightmare to change your name. I think that was actually my main deterrent. Like once I found out like all the paperwork and all the agencies, and then also, yes, the professional piece, uh, because I do have a distinctive name. I was like, this is ridiculous. And so I was like, they they must not really, whoever they is, they must not really want me to do this because they made it too difficult.
SPEAKER_02:Well, I think um back in the day, women really didn't have a presence or a particular um notoriety in terms of who they were. And so it wasn't really important. It's what we've talked about before. Women uh couldn't get credit back there. And your grandmother was very upset when she could not get credit and she was a businesswoman, and so there was a lot of conversation about the way it used to be and the way it is today.
SPEAKER_00:Okay. I had a boss once that her and her husband created their own last name. So yeah. Really? Yeah, so they didn't take or I do think men might have an issue taking on the woman's last name. Although some men do. Some men do. Yeah, so it can be any, but I had never I had never heard of creating your own last name before. What they did. They took their family names were important to both of them for different reasons. So they just combined um their their last names and made up some new name. They really did, yeah. Wow. I never heard of it before. But then I would see since then, I guess I was looking out for it. I'd occasionally would see like news stories, and it's a thing that people do.
SPEAKER_02:Well, I mean, you have the freedom to create your life in the best way that works for you different at a particular time. Yes. And then there was a conversation about where uh where you got your name from. You know, how did how was your daughter Ronita named, how is Donica named? And then other people started talking about how they were named, and uh family names and traditions are important connections and history, and uh so that was an interesting part of the conversation as well.
SPEAKER_00:How did you get your name? I mean, I know how I got my name, I've heard that story, but how did you get your name? I can't remember.
SPEAKER_02:Um, your mother, your mother, your grandmother wanted to name me something Nita. She always liked the name N-ITA Nita. Okay. And so, and because her name was Rosa, then she decided to take the R O from her name and then the N I T A. And that's one of the reasons why it was separated, because she wanted the distinction of row and then space Nita. Gotcha. Uh, so that's how Ro Nita was developed. Now, I'll tell you, um, my dad, your grandfather, wanted to name me Frankie Lynn. Because his name was Frank.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, I understand. How would you have? I mean, you would you've been fine either way. No. No, you would not have been fine. No.
SPEAKER_02:I was I was really glad that even at the age of 20, your grandmother said, I don't think Frankie Lynn would be the best name for her. So, yes, right.
SPEAKER_00:All right. So those are the conversations that, in your words, mature women.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, we we were just talking about life and talking about how different things are, because as I said, the conversation went into what kind of life uh our kids are living now. Where where they live, if they're back in town, I talked about the fact that you all had moved to Dayton, Ohio, and uh how meaningful that was uh to me. And then other people began to talk about where their kids are are living and how often they visit or not. Or so it was, yeah, but that was a part of the conversation. The other part of the conversation that took place was uh traveling and what do you uh where do you enjoy going? What do you do now? Are you involved in volunteer organizations? Are you still doing some work? How are you using your skill sets? Uh, retirement being uh on the minds of some of the women as well. And so we talked a little bit about that in in certain areas, but we also talked about the fact of the needs of today, what children need today, what their grandchildren need today, what our sons and daughters need today, because there's in this disconnect with uh the real world of connectivity, people, places, and things. So, what do we need? We need to get outside more, we need to be able to enjoy nature more, some of the things that we've talked about in the past.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:We need to get to know our neighbors, we get need to be able to relate to one another and not necessarily be looking so much on our phones and our uh digital devices, but to look in people's faces and to connect and communicate because that's how you really get to know someone. And really getting to know someone, you have the opportunity to experience the essence and the soul of that person.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, I think this, and you don't think you can get to know somebody virtually really well? No. Really? Um, I'm thinking from a professional sense, I've worked with quite a few people uh overseas, and it required me to be able to build out relationships with people who were not even on the same continent as me. And I built out some really, really amazing friendships. Um, and I did eventually meet them in person, but uh which was amazing, but I feel like it was amazing only because we were able to build out um that really strong relationship first. And that was all virtual.
SPEAKER_02:You had some things in common that you were able to share, but there is a barrier that exists when you're on a screen and you're you're communicating. What we used to say in theater when um I was in plays and and and acting, we had an opportunity to develop a connection with the audience, a connection with the people that were listening to us and watching us on stage. When I got into broadcasting and we were behind the camera, or if I'm in radio, we were behind the microphone. We had to use our language and had to use a different kind of connectivity because the audience is responding to you differently and seeing you differently. And so there is a different kind of communication skill that you use, or a different kind of connectivity. I mean, we're up close and personal.
SPEAKER_00:We are up close and personal, but I also wonder if it's exactly what you said, it's just a different skill set that hasn't been fully developed because people, for the most part, generally have been um raised to connect in person. And so we're in that moment in time where that shift is happening and people are really struggling with either learning that new skill set in terms of developing relationships.
SPEAKER_02:When I am talking to you and we are personally in the same space, I have your full attention. When you are in different spaces and on camera, you can be doing two or three things at the same time. In fact, I hear people saying, you know, they're multitasking, they're doing this, they may or may not be paying full attention to you. And that's why I said that it's difficult many times to develop that closeness, that connectivity.
SPEAKER_00:I feel like if if what's going on is either interesting enough or important enough, I'm like, that sounds like the role of the person, you know, I don't know, hosting the meeting or delivering the information to be able to engage in a certain way to keep um, to keep the attention of the audience or the person. Uh, because you're it's a again, it's just a different skill set. You have to perhaps navigate a little differently than you would if we were in the same room. You are navigating a little bit different. So uh, but so that's the part of the discussion. That is part of the discussion too.
SPEAKER_02:But it was a good time overall. And one of the best experiences that I had in terms of communication was uh we went to a place um that has um it's called Madagras World. And Madagras World is uh located uh in New Orleans uh in very, very large hangars, almost like airplane hangars, but it's hangars that have all of the different um floats and all of the different displays that they have when they do the Mardi Gras parades. Okay. And this particular location has a factory that builds floats for parades all over the United States and all over the world. The company builds 80% or more of all of the floats for parades throughout the world. And so reading all about that and seeing how they do that and hearing about the history of float making was fascinating to me. And I just happened to be in an environment where one of the tour guides uh was available to just talk about the process. So if you're going to have a parade in New York City, like the Macy's parade, and you want a float created, then you work with an artist, the designer, you send that to them, and then they come up with the uh the color scheme and what's necessary. And then this big machine can create what the float will look like. And they do they can create at least three of them a day, and then they send them all over the world. So I said, I had all kinds of questions.
SPEAKER_00:I bet. Yeah, this seems like it's right up your alley.
SPEAKER_02:It's fascinating to me. So I said, so you create the floats for the Rose Bowl parade, right? Yes, you create the floats that for the um the various games where people are represented. And she goes, yes. And then we had a chance to tour the facility, and it was beautiful. I mean, creative and for all the major sporting events, any kind of big, huge displays, they do it there. So this company is interesting.
SPEAKER_00:I wonder, I mean, I know parades are a very big point of celebration for folks all around the world and all different types of cultures, but I wonder if they have maintained their popularity. Um, like, is it as popular today in 2025 as parades and floats and things were in, I don't know, 2010?
SPEAKER_02:I I would think that it's definitely popular. I don't know what if it's more popular or as popular because they have um many factories around the country, this particular company. They are the ones that do it for, as I said, for more than 80% of the floats that are created uh around the world. And so there must be not only a market for it, but there must be uh an interest in still having the various uh big, beautiful floats that you see. It was it was just really kind of cool to uh hear that.
SPEAKER_00:I've never I didn't even know that was a thing. I knew Mardi Gras was a thing, but I'd never heard of Modisha World.
SPEAKER_02:No, I did not know it was a thing either. I did not know that um there was one company that really dominated the creation. Yes, yes, they they they did. Um, but it was quite fascinating. The tour um guide was uh a woman, her name was Carla. She has lived in New Orleans her entire life. Um, but the other part of the conversation went to I asked her about her her family. And uh her parents and her grandparents uh died during Hurricane uh Katrina when the um when the levee was opened up. And so and she had uh, I believe it was nine brothers and sisters at various ages, and she's one of the older brothers and sisters, so the the older family members then raised their uh younger brothers and sisters, younger siblings. And so she talked about um living during that particular time, and they had to live for almost a year in uh in the Superdome, and um people were bringing in uh um food and of course places for them to sleep. And so hearing that history that existed during that particular time and how people coped and uh and hearing it first hand. Well, yes, and how it really impacted her, but uh she was doing fine. Um, she'd been working at uh Mardi Gras World for uh for 10 years, and she had gone back to school. Of course, she had helped raise her her siblings, and she had a daughter, and her daughter was now um working at Madagas World too, and so it's a family thing.
SPEAKER_00:So wow, it sounds like this trip hit on a number of different levels.
SPEAKER_02:It did. It did. Okay. So blessed, and I was able to get back safely because of the city. Yeah, how was your travel?
SPEAKER_00:Because you know, it was you were traveling when the government was still shut down. Yes.
SPEAKER_02:Uh it was uh challenging for many, but I got back safely and that's what I really focused on. Okay, so that's good. So yes, all is well.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, good. It sounds like it. Yeah. And you are ready to be back in this winter weather. That's right. Yes. I like seasons.
SPEAKER_02:What can I say?
SPEAKER_00:You like seasons. Yeah, I like seasons better last week, but I'll get oh, you know, I'll get it. Well, that's true.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, and you you know, you liked building snowmen when you were um growing up and you liked playing in the snow when you were and you like something that's transitioned to my adulthood, though. Um, the little sleigh rides and those kind of things, no?
SPEAKER_00:No, and I can I can say that um factually because last year, it must have been last year when uh my husband is a a kid at heart um and he likes to play. Yes, he does. And so when there was a lot of snow, he was like, Let's go make a snowman. And I was just like, Oh my gosh, it's gonna be so cold. I don't even know if I have the glow, the proper gloves, proper hat. That just sounds awful. Um, anyway, that's how I can say that that's that's not my first uh choice.
SPEAKER_02:Did you did you go and play in the snow somewhat?
SPEAKER_00:Um, I think my snow activity, I shoveled. Okay. Does that count? Well, you were you were out in it.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, we were out in the snow together in one way or another. You know, he should have called me. I would have been out there helping him to build a snowman and have a snowball fight and you know, play with you and the dog and you know, even if it's not for the other Hollis Saunders.
SPEAKER_00:It is, yes, yes. Um but in terms of like winter activity, um, the next thing I want to do is dog sledding. When we were planning our trip to Alaska, right, uh, which we had cancel due to COVID, yes, um, and fight with but anyway, when it's high hunting. Yeah, as fight you can all her money back and everything. Um, I fully intend on booking that trip again, but I was so excited for the dog sledding excursion that we were going to do.
SPEAKER_02:And so that's sound like fun. Right. Yeah, yes, and and Alaska just sounds like a place that is not only a destination place for someone who likes nature and doing something new and different, but it's a place that is not over inhabited. So wait a minute. Do you like nature?
SPEAKER_00:Oh, right. Selective.
SPEAKER_02:It's true. It is, yes, yeah, because we've we've talked about that. We have talked about that, yeah. So selective.
SPEAKER_00:There are particular experiences in nature, yeah. That's true too. I there there are well, you have to be particular. You can't just decide. Some people do, some people do. All nature, every day. Yeah, yeah. They'll go out and pitch a tent, they'll go out to any cabin. They want to hike 35 miles a day. No, that's not true. They, you know, folks, folks are out there, yeah, doing all this all the things. No, that's not me. Okay. I was just for clarity.
SPEAKER_03:Yes.
SPEAKER_00:You you already knew the answer to that, too. Yes. I knew the answer because I know what my answer would be. What's up? Yes, but that's okay. That's good. So we adventure in other ways.
SPEAKER_02:This is true. Very, very much so. Yeah. So what else is going on?
SPEAKER_00:Oh, okay. What else is going on? Well, you just gave me Michelle Obama's new book. I did. Called The Look. And I've been hearing about it on all the different podcasts that I listen to. And so I'm excited to look through it and uh experienced her through her fashion and her fashion evolution. And I think it's really cool that she's taking it, um, taking this time to also honor the folks who've been behind the scenes who helped her in her fashion evolve. And um, and one of the interviews that I heard from her, she was talking about how she felt like this was the right moment because they have been out of office for over a decade. I was like, has it been that long? Wow, it's yes, it's been that long, apparently. Um, and how she felt like this was a good, because there was so much else going on that she didn't feel like that was the point in time to talk about it. But now is a good time to to talk about the power of fashion. And then also um what role women's appearances play in their lives in professional settings and in uh public figure settings. And she talked about how um she obviously, when she was um giving presentations and speeches, her content was fantastic. But regardless of whatever she was talking about, articles would always start off with, she was wearing. That's exactly right. Um so thank you for the book, and I look forward to looking through it.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, well, after you uh have a chance to uh look through it and read some of it, not just look through it. Just not janging. Not just the photographs, uh, then we want to have a conversation about that because not only does she talk about the fashion and the airs and how people read her, but she talks about making a statement with what you have on, what you're wearing. And so I want to I want to talk about that too. Talk about making a statement via fashion, via fashion, how you look, um the various transitions of hair and hairstyles and how that impacted her being the first African American, um, first lady.
SPEAKER_00:And well, it evolved.
SPEAKER_02:It it did. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:I remember our family conversations when they first came on the scene. We're like, now wait now.
SPEAKER_02:Yep. So uh, and that's not just. the majority population, it was the uh minority population too. And it yes. So when you read it, when you have a chance, then we'll talk about it. Okay. I'll see what you have to say.
unknown:Thank you.
SPEAKER_00:You know, I don't I don't like to um referring to people of color as the minority population. We are the global majority. Well you're absolutely correct.
SPEAKER_02:That is you we are the global majority.
SPEAKER_00:Oh I like to have heard it. Oh okay all right global majority.
SPEAKER_02:Uh-huh the the folks of color were of the global majority. I like that. Yeah I love that reframing right yes that's that's true. And that's a really good point. So remind me of it in case I slip back. Flip back into past teachings. Yes. Yes. No I I mean I think it I think it's a good point because the connotation is so important in the language you speak and in the words you say and what it means. And so that's a really good point.
SPEAKER_00:Words matter. They do matter yeah they do matter. And um we've been on a couple of guest podcasts this past week which has been super cool and um it's been great to uh meet the different people and meet their audiences and have really excellent conversations. And I just I thought of that when you were talking about the power of language because when when we were on a positive talk radio the lead guy there, I can't remember his name's Kevin. He was so amazing. He was surrounded by women because it was us and then his co-host yes um and it was just so dynamic because it was intergenerational conversation you all could relate on some things and me and his co-host could relate on some things but then the the language thing popped up it did quite a bit. Yes. And so it's just uh folks get a chance like check it out because we had a really good time and um intergenerational language was was a piece of what we discussed.
SPEAKER_02:One of the the words that he talked about that was so funny was the word dope. Yeah and how back in the baby boomer um childhood days yeah that was something that was a negative connotation and someone recently had said to him that you know hey man that's dope and he thought well that was something negative yes something negative and and the guy said what why are you looking like that and so he shared with him the his interpretation he goes oh no no no man that's like like that's where it's at that's cool that no I want to say that about you and so speaking of language so you just never know.
SPEAKER_00:Was that your experience of that word dope? Um yes okay okay so you knew exactly what he was talking about I knew what he was talking about I didn't know what he was talking about. Oh I was learning I was learning you had no idea that that word has evolved over time.
SPEAKER_02:Yes yes there there are several words that that evolve over time in terms of the meaning but also the interpretation of what the words mean. So they could mean something different to you than they meant to someone else we talked a little bit uh the uh on our former podcast about um 67 being the dictionary.com's word of the year and since we've talked about it I've been reading other articles about it and it was created by tweens the uh young people who are developing their own language themselves it's not a language for me it's not a language for you it's their own language and how they want to communicate and they really don't want adults trying to figure out their language or telling them that that doesn't make sense because you know we said six seven is not a word. We have feedback like what are they saying we created it that's ours. There was an article in New York Times this past week that indicated that what we adults try to do is to take the language and take the trends and take the things that were meaningful to us and then make sure that the younger generation has an understanding of it and we try to put our context around it, which is why young people have started creating their own language.
SPEAKER_00:They're over it. They want to do their own thing I wonder how that's going to translate once they enter the workforce well these were tweens so you're you're talking about 11, 12 13 but but it's but in 10 years um you know and maybe it'll evolve maybe they will you know want to learn how to talk to folks who are older than them. You know I don't I don't know I think my interaction with tweens is quite near zero. Okay. All right. Which is fine for me. Well yeah yes set my life up right um but that I mean that's fascinating.
SPEAKER_02:It was fascinating to me and what I think to to your point about what's going to happen when they transition and and they're older, I think they'll have a perspective of why it was so important for the adults to try to understand and and communicate and participate in the conversation. That's the other part of it because what adults want to do is to be able to communicate so we can have this relationship back to that that is real and not just superficial. But if you don't want to be talking to them or explaining they doesn't like explaining themselves is what the article said in the New York Times. You know why should we have to do that?
SPEAKER_00:So fascinating well I look forward to seeing how that evolves um because I was unaware but also yeah I'm not you know their target audience they're not trying to communicate with me so I would be unaware if that's true language. That's true.
SPEAKER_02:Huh going on different languages new languages it it is but it it also uh reminded me of a conversation I was um having with one of your aunts about when we were young the kind of games we used to play.
SPEAKER_00:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:And so we were talking about we used to play hopscotch and so you used to play hops hopscotch I don't know if you remember that it's where you draw the the numbers on um the concrete uh wall you like jump with with like two two feet and then one foot and two feet the one foot yeah you you you have yes yes yes that's hops that's off yeah yes I did do that okay all right um and then we had Simon says um where you were uh attempting to be able to act out dub dub goose okay okay all right let me think okay all right um but she asked me did um do I remember playing jacks I said oh yes I hand coordinating so you have tin jacks and you um oh you like bounce the ball yes okay yes so we were we were talking about that but kids today don't do that they don't play those kind of games because they're very much into their digital devices they're playing their video games yes and so they've missed out on some of that interaction and whether it was um uh we had Red Rover we had Mother May I um but aren't they still interesting with the devices?
SPEAKER_00:No no no with each other because when they're playing video games it's not just them and the screen my understanding okay because I'm not a video I'm not a gamer um really I know shocking uh but my understanding is that they are also um they're in communities and they're playing like with each other so they're in a game with three or four or many many more hundreds of other people um playing and so and they're talking to each other either through the device or through some so I again I think it's not it's just different. Okay. Like all those basics in terms of connection and conversation and community building are there. It's just different.
SPEAKER_02:And different is okay. It it allows us to be able to grow and we know that people change and we know that circumstances change. It just concerns me that perhaps there may be something missing. And I want to make sure that you don't miss out on an experience that is so important to your opportunity to grow and develop.
SPEAKER_00:I think a balance is is important. I think it will be a mistake if humans ultimately lose a human connection I think there can be some negative repercussions from that. And also I think if we look at the data and the science behind it all, we do see some troubling trends. Such as such as um such as an inability to communicate more broadly uh such as isolation um and loneliness um such as a real I guess depending on the age level um even like a dip in cognitive abilities so I I I just think there's a way to be able to do it but I wouldn't be as dismissive of how young people are living in this digital world as I feel like some people are because I I don't think it's a no it's all bad. I just think it's a um understand kind of where we are and then integrate ways to be able to manage it better instead of being just so negative about everything.
SPEAKER_02:I agree with you that it's it's important to be able to understand and to be able to figure out the best way to sort of manage the difference. And I too become concerned about the isolation and I become concerned about uh whether it's real and authentic in terms of the relationships in the podcast uh one of the podcasts that that we uh take this week the question of relationships which between men and women and how uh things have changed in in and how one reacts and we were asked the question uh how important is it to be able to have the kind of communication like intergenerationally like we we talk about here with uh individuals um of the opposite sex we were asked that question I think my reaction was this would be a whole other podcast where we talk about like all the intricacies of male female relationships um yeah well and and how how different is it for us for me as a baby boomer and for you as a millennia in terms of that kind of relationship has technology had impact in terms of how we interact with the opposite sex and I just thought it was a a really kind of interesting way to sort of approach it.
SPEAKER_00:I mean I think probably oh well absolutely you know that's why you have all these dating apps I mean but I also owe um my marriage to the internet right I met my husband on a dating app. And but for being on that dating app, we would have probably never met because our circles were totally different. I I can't think of a situation of how our worlds would have collided in any way. And um so it's a mechanism for meeting people even more so today than it was back then. If we're talking about that stage of a relationship. I also think that you can utilize technology to be able to have long distance relationships in a way that might have been more difficult before because now you can face time and yeah I mean you can just do all types of things I think to strengthen a relationship. Sure. You know there's probably negative not probably I know there's negative aspects to it as well but I think that's like with all technology like you can either use it for good or you can use it for bad.
SPEAKER_02:You know who are you as a person and how to utilize you can use your superpower one way or the other and uh so I yeah I get it. Well we'll see yeah I think the jury is still out on what the outcome is going to be long term. So there are possibilities. I wanted to share with you that uh you know that I love the Christmas movies and we talked about it before there are a lot of them out there and this morning on the Today show there was an announcement that Hallmark is has made another Christmas movie with one of the football teams. Now you probably didn't know this but last year they take me back next to they did a movie uh with the Kansas uh uh Kansas City Chiefs really and they had the foot the football players and um and it was a really successful movie.
SPEAKER_00:So this year they have one coming out uh with the Buffalo Bills and so they they went to Buffalo and they were talking to the people there and they found some fans and so Hallmark has created this whole new movie and I thought this might be a trend you know year one and then now this is year two successful I believe it will be and uh you enjoyed the movie you enjoyed the passage okay you're like there's not a Hallmark movie I don't enjoy.
SPEAKER_02:Well I you know I mean it's it's pretty scripted but it's yeah fun and for those of us who like sports uh it was kind of cool and and then watching the the person I have a chance to go and interview the players because they get little cameo appearances well yes because you know it takes football and it takes it's a cool intersection.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah it's smart because I think it's like 50% of uh at least what you're talking about NFL are 50% of the NFL consumers women or something like that. I don't think I feel like I saw that stat somewhere. So anyway I didn't just think it's yeah but there are so it it is smart.
SPEAKER_02:Well I think the whole Christmas tradition uh that has now taken place with all the movies that I look at three networks now have them on 24-7 so uh from now through the first of the year.
SPEAKER_00:So I have yet to have seen a Christmas but also I you know I'm I'm knee deep in my dramas.
SPEAKER_01:But but you are bringing the Christmas spirit I so I still get my dose it begins and it begins yes so uh so that's good.
SPEAKER_02:Well it's been a busy time and we have some things going on in the foreseeable future but rolling towards the end of the year you believe that it's almost the end of 2025. No I can't I know I cannot but this has been exciting for us because we've created this this new podcast and we have some one wonderful things that are going to be happening in the foreseeable future and so this is good.
SPEAKER_00:Awesome well it was a pleasure as always and for all of you listening thank you so much and please don't forget to like and subscribe and continue to listen and we will see you next week. Take care bye