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Raised By Her Podcast
Raised By Her is a mother–daughter podcast exploring the lessons, love, and lived experiences passed down through generations. Hosts Ro Nita and Donnica share honest, intergenerational conversations about womanhood, identity, family, and leadership - and the wisdom we inherit (and sometimes challenge).
Part humor and all heart, Raised By Her is a reminder that every generation has something to teach—and that the stories that raise us continue to shape who we become.
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Raised By Her Podcast
Met Gala 2026, “Doctor” Cheyenne Bryant & Kentucky Derby Talk
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Was Michael Jackson the ONLY reason MTV integrated? 🎤 We dive into MJ’s business acumen, the Met Gala’s Amazon controversy, and more.
In this episode of Raised by Her, we explore the intersection of legacy, luxury, and legitimacy. We kick off with a deep dive into the 1980s music industry, dissecting how Michael Jackson and Rick James forced MTV to pivot from its exclusionary practices to embrace Black excellence. Transitioning to modern-day spectacles, we debate the 2026 Met Gala’s shift toward corporate sponsorship, Jeff Bezos’s controversial involvement, and whether "fashion as art" has been traded for billionaire branding.
We also address the viral story of "Dr." Cheyenne Bryant, sparking a vital conversation on the necessity of professional credentials in the mental health space versus the rise of "social media experts." Finally, we open the floor for our first-ever AMA, bridging the generational gap to discuss raising Black daughters, navigating "The Talk," and the unique wisdom that comes with being an "older mom."
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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 The "Healed & Healthy" Podcast Kickoff
01:15 Our First AMA: Why We’re Asking Anything
02:56 The Michael Jackson MTV Secret (Rick James’ Role)
05:40 Did MJ Save MTV? The $42M Business Move
07:34 Met Gala 2026: Art vs. Amazon’s Billions
09:49 The $50 Million Wedding Controversy
15:09 Why Designers are Quitting the Met Gala
21:55 Blue Ivy: The Met’s Youngest Fashion Icon
27:32 The "Unlicensed Doctor" Scandal Explained
35:11 Why I Was Born Early for the Kentucky Derby
38:01 Breaking Barriers: The First Female Derby Winner
47:20 AMA: How to Talk to Your Kids About Sex
52:24 Raising Black Daughters in Predominantly White Spaces
57:24 1968 Protests vs. Gen Z Work Ethic
01:07:01 How to Join the Next "Ask Us Anything"
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SPEAKER_02Welcome back to Raised by Her. Oh, yes. Hi there. Hello.
SPEAKER_01How are you doing today?
SPEAKER_02Uh, your mother is doing great. Okay. This Mother's Day weekend is. Mother's Day weekend. Yes, yes.
SPEAKER_01I'm good. You're good? Okay. Me too. I was telling you earlier today that I feel healed from uh whatever that sickness was that I was going through. And so I feel like more like myself. And so I'm like, oh yeah. Good. This is how life is supposed to feel, not how it was, because the challenge was real.
SPEAKER_02You were lacking energy and vitality in addition to the sinuses and whatever else was going on.
SPEAKER_01All the things. Yeah. I um you know what cure did, I think, is that I left our our taping and took some night quill and then just slept.
SPEAKER_02Sleeping is good, resting is good. So I'm glad you're better. Thank you. Thank you.
SPEAKER_01Thank you. So this week, um, we're gonna do something a little different. Yes. And uh which is super cool. So one of the things that our production team will ask us to do was consider doing AMA. And I was like, what's a AMA? Right?
SPEAKER_02That's what I said.
SPEAKER_01What is an AMA is with they were like, it's ask me anything. I was like, uh like ask us something. And they were like, no, ask me anything. They were like, okay, so we put it on um our Reddit platform and got some amazing responses that we are going to dive into at the end of this episode. So we're still gonna get into the hot topics and and all of that, like we typically do. But at the very end, definitely continue to stay tuned because we are going to dive into some questions that folks had specifically for a mother-daughter duo with our age difference and age rank.
SPEAKER_02Which we really appreciate because engagement is a part of what we want. We think that's one of the reasons why we are here to be able to not only share our opinions but some of our expenses, expenses, experiences. And I think that's sharing our expenses. You had like a GoFundMe too. That's exactly okay. Don't give me any ideas now. You know, my mother is learning these things.
SPEAKER_01So, okay. Yeah, that's funny. Okay, yeah, so definitely stay tuned uh because the questions were awesome, they were substantive, and we will answer them. Um, even though it's an ask me anything and not an ask us something. Um, all right, but in terms of hot topics, actually not hot topics yet, going back into our previous episode and some of our clips that performed really well. Um, and I was telling you, I was like, we certainly got a lot of responses around our discussion on Megan the Stallion and Clay Thompson, but uh let's talk more about the comments that we got around one aspect of the Michael Jackson movie that both of us really enjoyed, which was the scene where um he and his agent are making sure that Michael Jackson could be on MTV.
SPEAKER_02Yes, that was a very powerful scene because what Michael was saying is this is what I want. And I know that there are not other blacks, uh African Americans artists who are on MTV. And then the agent said, Well, you know, it's gonna be hard. And he, you know, he was doing a little bit of pushback- All the reasons that you get to know. He was doing a pushback, and Michael said, No, this is what I want. And to me, that showed um was really representative of his uh acumen as a businessman, and he understood it was the beginning of um he was the first African-American that had an opportunity to be on MTV. And I mean, they had been banning our artists, and set the stage for future generations.
SPEAKER_01That's exactly right. So one person um said uh David Bowie also called MTV out around that time. Okay, and actually I'm like, do I remember that or did I just hear? I probably didn't remember. I was too young, but I was I have heard about his advocacy um in the music industry for all people and not just certain people. So uh shout out to David Bowie and for that person for flagging that for us because I think he's absolutely right. I appreciate that. Yes, absolutely. Another person said, if it wasn't for Rick James putting in work as well, they would not have given the spotlight to Michael. Mike was the exception. Rick James did the dirty work.
SPEAKER_02Oh, now see, I didn't know that. I didn't know that either. And I I I really appreciated that that comment and the fact that people are doing a deep dive into that history because after Michael Jackson came on MTV, they began to make more and more money. So some people said Isn't that how it works?
SPEAKER_01Well, wait, wait, we're gonna include the black people. Oh, what is all this money? Which is why it's always very interesting to me when folks try to try to um, yeah. So I'm like, oh, so you just don't want money.
SPEAKER_02You're right. What the profits of it all? I don't think they realize the the impact. It it's always under well, many times it it's just really not recognizing what we bring to the table, what we have to offer, and even the black consumer across the board. So um some say that Michael Jackson coming on MTV at that particular time really helped to uh to save the the um the format.
SPEAKER_01Another person said, Thank you for calling out MTV. Expletive, which I won't repeat. Thank you. Right. CBS Records, president and CEO, forced MTV to play Michael Jackson's music, specifically the Billie Jean video in 1983. He was pissed about MTV's refusal to air black artists. Um MTV then threatened to pull all CBC artists from the channel, basically threatening to shut it down.
SPEAKER_02And to me, that's where the power was really, I think, uh demonstrated. So beautiful.
SPEAKER_01Another person said MTV raps came on like at 11 or midnight, along with the headbanger's ball. I don't know who that's so you had to record it on VHS if you wanted to see them during the day. I didn't realize it was racially motivated. I thought it was due to the explicit lyrics.
SPEAKER_02Ah, so the learning moment. And what we appreciate is the fact that people have taken a deep dive, also just to be able to look at some of uh look up some of that history.
SPEAKER_01So thank you. Yeah, and I'll just read one more comment. MTV would have gotten dragged into the future eventually, but not at the speed and not at the level of you literally cannot ignore me pressure. MJ wasn't just riding the wave, he was the wave. He was the wave, and that forced execs to change the rules instead of just expanding the roster slowly. Someone else might have cracked the door in 10 years. He kicked it off the hinges in time. I love it. That's uh great comments. It was really great comments. Thank you, thank you. We appreciate that. Yes, we do. So please continue to comment, like, subscribe, engage with us. As you can see, we we see it, we enjoy it, we uh like to talk back with you all, almost like you all are right here on the couch with us. Absolutely, and it's a learning experience in addition to a discussion. Yes, yes, excellent, excellent. Okay, now into the hot topics of this week. I mean, we cannot talk about this past week without talking about the Metball, Met Gala, a Met Gala, wonderful, biggest fundraiser for the Metropolitan Art Museum in terms of how they present themselves.
SPEAKER_02Did you say wonderful? Well, yes, I I enjoy watching the creativity and looking at the various themes, and I like seeing the costumes, uh, some of the ball gowns, and this has been going on since uh I think 1940 something.
SPEAKER_01Oh I mean, I know it's been going on for a while. Yes, uh, and yes, I too have occasionally watched, probably not in real time, but again, you know, like watched it back. I'm like, oh, okay, that's nice to see what this person wore or this person wore, I guess. But this this year was a little different.
SPEAKER_02Well, this year um had as the chair, the chairpersons uh of the event, a very controversial character. Now they've had controversy in the past, um, they've had protests in the past, but this year with Jeff Bezos being uh the chair and and Beyonce being one of the co-chairs, they were able to not only have uh record-breaking uh fundraising, but also people wanted to know what does Bezos have to do and Amazon have to do with the Met Gala?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and I also I think that uh Bezos was just a corporate sponsor. I don't think he was the chair. Um there were four or five, like Beyonce and Venus Williams, and so others were were co-chairs for for the event. Because and I looked that part up because there was a lot of backlash about because of Bezos's involvement, there was a lot of backlash for folks who did try to, or who did attend. And so, you know, it's like, well, why would Beyonce did attend or not attend? Did attend. Oh, did attend. Yeah. And I think most people actually did. I mean, we're gonna talk a little bit about the folks who chose not to and what they said and or didn't say anything at all. But uh people had questions. They were like, you know, why would Beyonce go? Why would um Rihanna go? Why would all these other people go when, you know, uh Bezos is um representing what it is he chooses to represent in uh the world and in society, and also kind of like one of the big names and faces now for this particular Matt Gala.
SPEAKER_02Well, the thought is that um his current wife, um Lauren Sanchez, um is uh wanting to be a fashionista. They're showing they're showing up uh at various fashion uh events.
SPEAKER_01She paid to be on the cover of Vogue, one of the Vogues.
SPEAKER_02She paid to be a I mean, because she's not a she's not a model, she's not a high fashion model. Um she's not a lot of things, but uh so um yeah. Well, I mean, okay, I you know, uh as I I've said to you before, 50 million dollars for a wedding in Italy was um what she stepped out and and planned and decided to do. And wait, does that really bother you? Well, it bothers me because uh not that I have any say-so here, but it bothers me because that appears to be excessive when um Bezos is anti-union, when he has been uh it's been challenged for his the wages that he pays. I mean, he you know, he's one of the richest men in the world. And so I find it to be difficult to appreciate um the fact that you pay$50 million. Now, again, um if that's what she wanted to do, they have the money to do whatever they want to do. I I read someplace that they have uh a yacht that is uh a$500 million yacht. I'm wondering what is on a$500 million yacht. I would like to know. I'm sure you would.
SPEAKER_01Here, I guess you would.
SPEAKER_02I'm sure you would. But um it it's not the fact that they are very, very rich that bothers me. It is the fact that in the world today, with everything else that we have going on, and there are a lot of rich people doing a lot of crazy things, a lot of rich people also are wonderful philanthropists, and they give money. I mean, they they donate money as well. It just seems to be excessive.
SPEAKER_01I mean, this$10 million that they spent at the Med Gala is probably a donate. Right, it's a donation because it's too a fundraiser. A donation, yeah. Uh, but I mean I But it's a write-off if they choose to, I'm sure his tax attorneys have something made sure that makes all the sense for them. I mean, look, if you are one of the richest uh uh men in the world or couples in the world, and you want to spend$50 million on a wedding, I don't know that I have any issue with that just because I, you know, she should have the they should have the wedding that they want, is kind of how I feel about it.
SPEAKER_02And then she had the wedding that she wanted from what people were saying. I'm not sure he really uh wanted it as well. He just wanted her to have whatever it was she wanted. I think maybe that's the part that I'm focusing on. Like that's really cool. Well, um, some would say that is cool. Okay. She wanted him, and then she and then she wanted everything that goes along with it. And uh, I mean, they have a history and and there's a story behind that. But let's get back to the Met Gala because I mean Yeah, we can go down that rabbit hole. Um, the the gala itself was one of the most successful that they've ever had. Uh, they raised more money, uh, and a lot of people attended, but a lot of people chose not to attend as well.
SPEAKER_01I mean, uh, so I saw Taraji uh Bee Henson and then Jennifer Lewis, two black actresses who I respect uh immensely with for their continued, not just how excellent they are at their crap, but also their determination to continue to speak out against a variety of different things, whether it's unequal pay um and things of that nature. And so um, and yeah, they were like, why would why would we support this? This doesn't even make any sense for all the reasons that she just kind of outlined in terms of what Amazon has done as a corporation to its workers, the environment, all all the things. And so um, yeah, they didn't attend. But then also other people didn't attend either. Like one of the one of the young actresses who I enjoy watching so much is Zendea. Okay. And uh she didn't attend. Now she didn't say anything, she didn't attend, but her designer did, Marouche. What did what did her designer say? I think her designer actually dressed Lauren Sanchez. Oh, okay. Yeah, and I don't know that he's said anything, and perhaps I just missed it. Uh and some people had opinions about like what it is she wore, and some people were like, oh, well, that's his, that's what he's saying. That you know, he doesn't really based on based on the outfit, based on the outfit.
SPEAKER_02Well, the theme this year was fashion is art. And so the idea was to make a statement by which the theme every year, at least in the last few years, has made statements with um with the attire, but uh take something artistic and create fashion around that. And so uh Rihanna had a dress on that had um over 115,000 crystals on it, and there were people who were dressing like um statues as well as dressing like um paintings and I saw that like Heidi Klume and stuff, right?
SPEAKER_01Which is like very hard because I feel like that looks like one of her Halloween costumes. You know, because she always goes like all out for for Halloween, but you know what what do I know? I am not one of the uh the high fashion designers, but I for me, yes, we could talk about the human rights of it all with uh Amazon, but a part of the one of the other challenges I will say, and a part of the pushback that I know that it has or this gala has been getting is that this year it was less focused on the fashion. Like it it seemed more corporate, it seemed more uh it just wasn't staying true to what the Met Gala was initially designed to do. And so, you know, some of the designers no longer participated because of how much it costs now to participate. And each ticket was uh$100,000. Yeah, then table table$350, the uh I'm sorry, yes, individually$100 and uh thousand dollars. Then if you wanted to buy a table,$350,000.
SPEAKER_02Okay. The mayor of New York on um dynamic decided not to attend, and normally the mayor is there because the Met Gala is right there in the heart of his uh his city, and so it um it has been not only a fundraiser that has been successful in terms of its growth over the years, but they're saying maybe they don't even need to have it. They've raised so much money with the kind of uh support that they've gotten from celebrities. Maybe they've gotten away from the art and now it's been more of the the entertainers and the celebrities. I think that that's yes, that is a part of the controversy as well.
SPEAKER_01So it's um yeah, I mean for me, this is interesting because you uh again, as we've talked about in the past, you're involved in the arts. And so I think it's an interesting question in terms of what is I don't want, I don't know if I should say like what's more important, but staying true to the intent of uh an event, and obviously that should evolve as time evolves, um, or is it the money? Because they are raising money for a purpose.
SPEAKER_02The the money initially was raised for the costume um uh institute at at the Met, and the there was a need to be able to support this particular division of the um of the Met. Because they now don't need that money, they've raised so much, uh, it's now a statement event.
SPEAKER_01I mean it's they raised so much in the past or they've raised they've raised so much now. They've 2026 there okay.
SPEAKER_02Yes, they they have what they need, at least in in terms of the um the costume institute institute. Uh and so the the various divisions of have you ever been to uh have you ever been to the Matt the Museum?
SPEAKER_01Yes, but it's been a it's been a while. Right. But I think also because because we also you and I um are business people enough to know how uh funding works and budgets work and long-term planning. Like I so I want to like dive a little bit deeper into it. So when you say they've raised enough money, okay, are you saying that like, okay, so for 2020, like, okay, they're good for the year, obviously. Right, right. In terms of the long-term, they're gonna need money.
SPEAKER_02This is uh this is you know, they probably put uh money away for an endowment long-term so that they can continue having the support that they need for costume designers for for this aspect of the museum and and the art. Um, I I said before, this started, this gala started in 19, it was 1948 when they began having uh a gala. And the idea was to be able to do something new and different. I applaud the fact that they've been able to bring a lot of attention to the um the institute, a lot of bring a lot of attention to um the arts in that way, because it's hard to raise money for artistic endeavors, just in general.
SPEAKER_01Okay, so I I actually could appreciate this more if it is in fact a part of the strategy. Like, okay, so we are going to really focus on our largest donors so we can have a larger endowment, so we can have more flexibility for the next five, 10, 20 years. And then once once that is where we need it to be, then we will uh focus back more on who we truly want to be, which is a part of the fashion world a certain type of way. If in fact that's that's what the the goal is.
SPEAKER_02I'm not sure what the long-term goal will be now, which is why they are at least looking at should we continue this and will it continue to bring in the kind of money that it brought in in 2026?
SPEAKER_01Another thing I thought was interesting about this is that Ana Wentora said that she was surprised by the backlash of having the basos involved. And so I was just like it's to me when she made that comment, I was like, to me, that's just um another example of how when you start to move in different circles, you absolutely operate in a bubble. And because I, you know, you talk to probably I won't say most people, because who knows about like most people, but like who'll be like, for real?
SPEAKER_02You didn't realize all the controversy that being that involved with Amazon would and because uh of her role and her position, um, not only at Vogue, but in in terms of the corporate company, um, Konday Nash that owns uh the um the conglomerate that they have, they've been very pleased with the advertising support over the years that they have gotten as a result of the growth of uh of the Met Gala. And so there are a lot of entities that have really played, I think, a part in this growth and in the design. And because the fashion industry has changed so much, and we've talked about that, we talked about that last week, even in terms of the Devil Wears Prada, um, and and just how it's so important for the support to um to continue for artistic endeavors.
SPEAKER_01I actually love that plan because I'm I'm thinking about it differently now. I'm like, okay, particularly looking at the evolution of talk, entertainment is more broad. Yes, and if the goal is more pub publicity and advertising, and I get that, particularly for an organization like Conde Nash, then um, yes, you want to pull in the influencers and the, you know, there's backlash in terms of like, who is this person? Why aren't they there type thing? Because and but like I get it. So again, if it's part of the strategy, then I'm like, okay. I think when I look at it, I'm just the that's also me. I'm like, but what's the strategy behind what you want to do what you do?
SPEAKER_02Like I just want to know what the thought process is the the strategy has been to to grow it and to be able to get support across the board across the board. The problem is are the people who are attending now appreciating the art at all? Or do they know even why they're there? You know, Beyonce brought her daughter, um, Blue Ivy. Blue Ivy, it was said, was the youngest. Person to ever attend a Met Gala. I thought that was super cute. And so, you know, it's a wonderful statement. It's a family affair. How about that?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it was. It actually reminded me of uh you because you would bring me to all of these like events and things like that. So I was like, aww. And people, that's what people would say.
SPEAKER_02Aw, yeah.
SPEAKER_01That's probably what people said to Blue and to Beyonce. They were probably like and JC who was there too.
SPEAKER_02Yes. And a lot of times we had to get some special permission. Yeah. And I promised that you would be a little lady, and you were. And so we were able to go some places and do some things. So the experience, uh, never the Met Gala have we attended, though. So anyway, it's uh a point of conversation and uh more power to all those who attended, had a good time, uh, wore their beautiful costumes uh and their ball gowns. And um we really wish the event well as it may transform into something different in the foreseeable future.
SPEAKER_01Continue to transform. Yeah, I mean, because it's a uh you are absolutely correct. We have we are not on Ottawa's list. Um however, we haven't attended yeah, well, to that point though, we have attended a a good amount of galas and events that that are decently high profile and things. Around the country, yes, around the country. And around the world, really. Well, yeah, but that's just the amount of time and money and preparation and like all of like what it takes to, I mean, it's it's beyond that$100,000 ticket. Very much so. Yeah, yeah. And so I to your, you know, you were saying, you know, like great job to everybody. Honestly, yes, because it, you know, that's not something that you started an hour before the event.
SPEAKER_02Well, doing something uh different, doing something unusual, doing something that people really want to attend, and being able to make a statement, hopefully connected to the cause. And that's why people had uh, I think some not only uh controversial comments, but also how connected to the cause of the museum is the Met Gallic today? And and you know, yeah, it is a good question.
SPEAKER_01And I don't know. I I I I did research obviously for our conversation, but I haven't done like a master deep dive. I would be curious to know, like, if I were to do that master deep dive, if that's if if any reporting um entity has actually been able to report that.
SPEAKER_02But I was looking at the amount of money that they made, um, and I was looking at what they made last year, and they made um over$30 million last year. So oh, so they had a big jump. So they they did$42 million this year. Yes, absolutely. And so that that's an important point for any kind of thing. What fun the difference was that$10 million from from the baseball?
SPEAKER_01Again, just more questions.
SPEAKER_02Yes, yes, yes. But um uh a shout out to the to the planners and supporting arts and culture across the board.
SPEAKER_01So yeah.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_01All right. Yeah, yeah, we can we can yeah, we could we can hold it there. You know, I was gonna consider saying something about um like Chris Small's and some of like the the other like you know, on the ground protests, because Amazon has a lot of has a lot of uh um protests going on on an ongoing basis.
SPEAKER_02And but that's my point about the$50 million wedding. I mean, I I just think that if you are a major corporation, wouldn't you love to be known for your good heart? Wouldn't you love to be known for your philanthropy? Wouldn't you want to be uh a company that stands for all people and supporting causes that are beneficial, but it's okay.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and I think a company wants to be known for being a profitable company, successful in and um taking your millions and having fun. Well, I don't think the two are mutually or the figure of the four or five that you just I don't think they're they're mutually exclusive. Right. Well, he has the money, he can do what he wants. Yeah, he can do it. And$50 million is just a drop in the bucket for him, honestly. Yeah, so yes, okay whatever you want, Lauren. Oh, I think. Yes, love it all, whatever you want.
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SPEAKER_01Okay, so another thing that popped onto our radar this week was a woman by the name of Dr. Cheyenne Bryant. She's been out there for a while. Has she? I mean, I thought that she was somebody else when I first heard the story. I thought that she was one of Jamal Bryant's wives. Um, but I was wrong. Um and so yeah, it it was the last name that threw me. The fact that she looks like well, all the anyway, yes, that's neither here nor there. They have a look. They have a look. She went on a podcast and talked about, she calls herself Dr. Cheyenne Bryant. But she talked about how she's not licensed, uh, but she doesn't put herself out there as being licensed. She is a psychology expert. And so folks had a lot of opinions about being in the healthcare industry and a specialty without having gone through the actual licensing, the proper training, the proper training, and calling yourself a doctor.
SPEAKER_02The um psychologists that uh that I read that had some problems with this felt that in a world where you have so many mental health crises, when you have such needs in terms of relationships and development, what the broader world would like to see are people who have the proper training to be able to, credentials are important, to be able to um offer advice. Now, our podcast is based on opinions, uh, and then some expertise that we have in in terms of our long-term careers. My career much longer than yours, but but uh I don't think I'm ever gonna catch up. Well, probably at least not soon, but um so there is something to be said for I think your your experience, but you cannot present yourself as something that you're not. I think that that's not um it's not right. I think it's uh misleading, and I think that there's some risk there.
SPEAKER_01There's absolutely risk there, and particularly like in the healthcare field, I don't want to be treated by anybody that's not licensed. Like it's part of not just oversight for the field, but also it's a protection for patients in terms of how can I make sure that my provider is being held to the standards of the profession.
SPEAKER_02So is she just giving opinions? Is she just going out on podcasts talking? Does she have her own show? Or did she hang her shingle out and is uh counseling people and helping people pretending to be a licensed um psychologist?
SPEAKER_01What she said was that the only reason that she doesn't I shouldn't say the only she said the reason that she hasn't gotten licensed is because she didn't want to have to deal with insurance companies. What? Well, okay, so I it's and I so I do know uh from speaking with with friends that uh that are doctors and all these things that like it insurance and work in hospitals and things. Insurance, that's right. Working with insurance companies can be a nightmare. So in terms of how they receive their payments and how they are especially today, they have become um it's even worse today, and it's not getting any better for a variety of reasons. That is true. So um it does not, and I've also run into various um I would various, I want to say, like offices or practitioners that don't don't uh include insurance. They're like, you know, this is how much it costs, you know, and I don't do insurance companies at all. So that's not the first time that I've heard that.
SPEAKER_02It is the first time I've heard um somebody though call themselves a doctor with no MD or any doctorate at all, and allowing then um the platform to be wide open for you to counsel people or to help solve the problems of individuals. To me, that's where the danger is, and that's what's a little bit scary.
SPEAKER_01It's scary. She it appears that she is intentionally operating in a gray area, and I don't know why anybody would want to intentionally operate in a gray area.
SPEAKER_02Especially if you're trying to help people, if you're trying to assist, if you're trying to problem solve in a world where mental health is mental health is becoming more and more um challenging for all of us. I mean, every other day there's a news story with someone that has a mental health problem that we are trying to one understand. And then we go, well, why didn't they get help? What you're saying is you wouldn't want that help to be Dr. Bryan if she doesn't have the credentials behind her name. I don't want any, I don't want anybody that's not credentialed doing anything for me. I understand that. I mean, I really I mean it's help care otherwise. Yes, yes. Um, so you know, I've I've been blessed to be able to have an honorary doctorate, and I don't think I could call you Dr. Ronita. Well, you could. But I don't think I would have a a show that's on mental health that I would be uh assisting um certain individuals who had certain needs. To me, that would not be permissible. That wouldn't be that wouldn't be allowed.
SPEAKER_01So uh well, I as a result of her saying that and the fact that she would go all though um publicly s say this means that she really just I guess just didn't know that there was a true issue here, but I've I've uh heard that she now has several complaints issued against her. There are uh several people complaining and and you know I think rightfully so. Rightfully so. Like I don't under, yeah, I don't anyway, get credentialed if you want to be a pilot, go get credentialed to be a pilot. If you wanna be a practicing nurse, you know, go get credential to do that. If you want to be a lawyer, go, you know, get credentialed to do like just be credentialed don't just assume because you've watched several episodes of Law and Order or whatever that you that you're good to go, or based on your life experience that you're good to go. I mean, when we were doing, we of course we do our individual research and we come together and have a conversation. I also learned that she says that she's a relationship expert. And so I'm like, oh, you know, like what's what's um qualifies her to be She's not married, she she is she's never been married and sales. It's our production person actually made like a funny clip about that. He he was he was like um anybody because she had a 10-year engagement, so he was like, you know, anybody that has been in a 10-year relationship that um didn't get married, assuming that that was the goal, you know, is not an expert in how to move things forward.
SPEAKER_02In relationships, particularly a relationship expert. I I I think our goal here is to be able to say, make sure you check out the people that you are getting advice from. That's true. Make sure that you've done your homework and can't listen to everybody.
SPEAKER_01That is so important to say in this day and age where everybody can now call themselves call themselves an expert on whatever they want. That they'll check their resumes.
SPEAKER_02Yes, we'll check the resumes, especially in terms of being able to try to get the problem solved. Yeah. Because that's the reason why people reach out, that's the reason why people go to therapists, that's why people go to uh counselors and to to make sure that they're getting some help. And we just want the people that are giving the advice to give more than just their opinion. Lord, yes. Okay, I'm I think that's yeah, that's that's important. You know what? This past week, something else I'm gonna move on to. Yeah, it was Kentucky Derby weekend. And do you know why I have such a kinship to Kentucky Derby?
SPEAKER_01Because it came to mind. My my grandmother, she was she was all about uh going to the Kentucky Derby and went for for many, many years. 50 years. For 50 years.
SPEAKER_02She and Daddy, mom, we we're representing you here with this uh with this rose. The Kentucky Derby is um it is a part of the whole running of the roses in uh in Kentucky and and mom and family from Kentucky. Yep, so 50 years she uh she there.
SPEAKER_01And so I was supposed to be born, I think, during the Derby. That's right. And my grandmother was with me. Yeah, I was like, Derby weekend. That's right. We don't know each other very well yet. Right, that's true. However, that's true. She told you that too. I have an appointment at the Derby.
SPEAKER_02That's right. I need you to just come on. You needed to come at least two or three weeks early. So that's it.
SPEAKER_01You didn't oblige.
SPEAKER_02You did, yes, you did, and to oblige my grandmother ever since. I I I was just really taken back when she told me that the baby has to be born early. And I said, What do you mean the baby? I mean, I want the baby to be born, but more importantly, I want the baby to be healthy. Yeah. And she goes, I've been going to the Kentucky Derby for all these many years, and I've uh, you know, uh, your father and I don't want to miss it, and so the baby has to come early.
SPEAKER_01She's like, Look, me and my grandchild get it. All right, you you just do what you have to do. We got this in terms of the time.
SPEAKER_02And you did. You came two weeks early, and she said, See, I told you nothing to worry about. I'm still looking at her and going, uh-huh, okay, mom. I didn't really appreciate that. But the the wonderful stories that uh the family had in terms of those 50 years of celebration, there used to be carloads of friends and family that would go um to the Kentucky Derby. They would uh leave on a Friday and go down to uh my grandmother's uh home, and um Grandma Jones would just fix all this food, and there would be 10, 15, 20, 30 people coming, and um they would be partying, and as uh my cousins were there, and a lot of just so many people, lots of fun, and we couldn't wait till we were old enough to go to the Kentucky Derby. Did you end up eventually going? Eventually, but eventually I had to be grown and married, but that's okay. You had several retirements to that. One of the reasons why this was such an exciting time, it was the 152nd uh running of the Kentucky Derby. Okay, and uh the the winner of the uh the derby this year was a woman um who had trained the Golden Tempo was the name of the winning horse, and Golden Tempo was trained by the first ever woman who won a Kentucky Derby. That's awesome. I love that. That's cool. It was really cool, and she had been uh training for many years, and this was the first time that um that a woman trainer, and she said what it meant to her to be able to be an example for little girls. Uh her name is Sherry DeVoe. And Sherry said, people kept asking her, how would it feel to to win the Kentucky Derby? And she thought, well, it would be great, but it would be great to live. You know, any anytime you win any race, you know, you feel feel good about it. But what was so remarkable about this Kentucky Derby is her horse was in 17th place. Oh there are only 18 horses that run, little fillies that that run, and her the the jockey came from all the way in the back, and so it was very exciting, very exciting. And then uh just by a nose ended up winning. Um, and so it was a long shot. Long shot is when horses that they don't expect to win absolutely win. And I think the uh the odds were something like 23 to 1. So the people who voted uh for uh or bet on that particular horse really made some money that day, too.
SPEAKER_01That's no, that's incredible. I mean, uh, so shout out to her. Yes. Absolutely. Yes. I I don't know a ton about horse racing and the ins and outs. I know that it's a super complicated sport, like so many sports are. Um, I mean, so when you say that she's the first woman and it's 2026, I'm like, now, what were the barriers to entry? Like, why? Because that that is crazy. Anytime I see a first these days, I'm like, that's wild. And um kind of makes you want to learn a little bit more. But then also, um, I mean, I okay, I my I loved horses when I was younger, as you know. Yes. Contemplated getting me a horse, but then I didn't do a very good job of taking care of my dogs and the other, the other animals. Yes, yes, yes. And you're like, that'd be a really expensive investment for her just to lose interest in three months. Um, so I I do understand. You went to horse camp. I did. I did this. Um, who was I? Oh, I was at a modeling audition and they asked you like all these like different skills that you had, and like horseback riding came up. And I was like, Oh, I can do both English and Leicester. You can't uh but so I was young, as many um people who gosh, what are the names, like the women who who ride, you know, and do like the horseshoe jobs and everything. The uh jobies. Yeah, they uh I mean it's it's a fascinating sport across the board and all the different ways that you can gaze.
SPEAKER_02Um it's also it's an expensive uh sport to get into. And so you have to have some money, some resources, some sponsors to be able to have um not only that kind of background, but uh for for Sherry, this was a lifelong love of hers um to be a trainer and and to be able to then have winning horses. And this this was something unique and and different.
SPEAKER_01So did you watch the derby this year? I did not watch the derby this year. I have those years sport, and because uh we got the basketball, we got the football. Is it is the derby in there too or not?
SPEAKER_02The derby used to be in there because of mom and dad's uh fact of going to the derby. And uh, there are over a hundred thousand people that attend the Kentucky Derby. And and if you've ever gone, for those of you out there, you know that there's a field area, and that's where the party is and the picnic is and all that. And then of course they have the uh the bleachers where people stand, and then you have to get up and you have to go to the bedding window. So it's a whole process, a lot of fun. I have been to derbies, but um, and I've been to the Kentucky Derby many years ago when I was finally old enough and allowed to bus remote once. Yes, yes, there was a requirement there, but um it's an exciting experience, and you know, the ladies wear the big derby hats and uh yeah, the quiet is super cool.
SPEAKER_01It's uh quite a uh quite an event. I mean, we get uh we're not that far from Blueville, and we have a lot of family definitely spills out even into like our local culture in terms of where we live. Uh my husband and I have contemplated going to the derby um a couple of times, and it eventually we will, but uh the experience is I'm just I'm a I'm a little more bougie these days. And so I really yeah, it's something I don't really I'm like, but tell me so. When you talk about like kind of like being out in the fields and stuff, I'm like that's cool for like a second, but that's like I want kind of like a different, I just like you know, well, you can go to the field. And it's expensive to do like the Super Brother.
SPEAKER_02It is, but but um there are lots of different derbies. I mean, this is the first of the Triple Crown, the Kentucky Derby is, and so we're we're hoping that Golden Temple just continues to win and to the P is coming.
SPEAKER_01We went to one in Virginia, okay. Um, I can't remember the name of I was gonna call it the Prignes, but I don't think it was a prickness. But so we've had the thing where we, you know, we we paid for the the section and then you know, we ate, we watch. It's just for those of us that don't gamble, uh my husband likes to gamble. I'm I'd like to spend my money in other ways.
SPEAKER_02Do you know what it is? Because your dad loved to gamble. I mean, it it's it's kind of exciting to sit there and what you do is you look at the uh the record of the jockeys because the people riding the horse um is is actually a a part of this this winning. So it's it's the breeder, it's the owner, it's the jockey, it's all these different variables. A lot of front research. Well, it's all guessing game. You know, let me just tell you, I I didn't know. Well, your dad had a system. Of course he did.
SPEAKER_01Of course he did.
SPEAKER_02The engineer, of course, has a system. Yes, yes, he had a system. But it was it was really fun watching uh the interaction with uh my parents, your grandparents, and my aunts and uncles and the cousins and and everybody. Uh and when you win, you know, four or five, ten dollars. Four or five, ten. That was exciting too. Um, and and having long shots that uh would come in. So it is an experience. And one of the reasons why I I mentioned it, not only the woman being the first trainer in the uh in the history, but also new and different experiences. And that's what I I think would be wonderful to to not only miss out on something that you could have been a part of just because you didn't know. So, you know, go. You can sit in the clubhouse if you have that kind of resources. But um, we've been to other derbies that have not been to Kentucky Derby because they've been fundraisers for uh some of the the colleges and fundraisers for some of the uh yeah I do appreciate that a bunch of folks going to uh going down to Churchill Downs um and and doing that. So anyway, shout out to Sherry DeVoe and um congratulations and good luck on the Triple Crown.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, good luck moving forward for sure. That's good. Yeah, for sure. And I I'm laughing because I'm like, I we can say this um being even though we are close by a state over in Ohio, I know for a fact the locals in Louisville are like, do not let anybody else know that Miss Submit is going, we are over it. We don't want to, we don't want the 100,000 tourists come into our city. Like I heard all the things from my Kentucky counterparts who are like, oh son. Uh uh. But okay.
SPEAKER_02We are saying have new experiences. So so this was one of the things that I thought was so funny um the very first time that I was allowed to go. Yeah um there's neighborhoods around Churchill Dams, and in the neighborhoods, there are people that will allow people to park their own little private uh driveways and your yards and if you charge for it. And they charge for it. But mom and dad had been going for such a long time, and and our other relatives that there was a family that they they were able to park, and and so we came came pulling up, and you know, the man said, I knew you all were gonna be here, the Joneses are, you know, and blah blah blah. And and I thought, I said, what is going on? That's the man's yard. And and so then I heard the story, but uh so it's kind of cool. Traditions as well. Yeah, yeah. 50 years, Rosen Frank, about that. Yeah, very cool. A lot of fun.
SPEAKER_01All right. Well, should we get into our AMAs? Oh, yes, oh yes, all right. Ask us anything.
SPEAKER_02So this was kind of funny though. Um, we do appreciate the fact that you all are interested enough, and some of the things that you wanted to know have to do with our opinions, um, also our age difference uh difference and how we have been able to navigate our lives. So we want you to keep this engagement coming.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and we'll say this again at the very end. Uh, but the best way to be able to be a part of this particular segment is to follow us on Reddit. Um, and because we will post it there and just leave your comments and we will get back to you both on the show and in faster time um on the platform. But if you do not have Reddit, uh please also feel free to send us an email at raise by her podcast at gmail.com and you will be included because we are going to read all this anything. Okay. Good. Okay. So the first one comes from Calm Concentrate 2652. I love that. And he or she said, How did you bridge the gap when talking about cultural issues, birds and bees, etc.? My dad's dad was born in 1898, and he always wanted more guidance than he ever got in the limited time that they had.
SPEAKER_02I thought it was a really good question because one of the things that I wished my mother had really had uh an honest conversation with me about was uh was sex. I mean, what she did was she gave me books, and then she would allow me to not only read the books, and then when I'd ask her a question, she would say, Okay, we're going to take you to the doctor, and she's going to explain all these different things that are going on. It was a female uh OBGYN, and she had to search for a female OBGYN at that particular time. But um, and so I was able then to ask the questions to the OBGYN. My mother was not comfortable then talking to me about uh about sex. So then I decided, well, if I have a girl, what I'm going to be able to do is have a conversation, going to explain, and then be able to not only take you to the professionals. And so that's what we did. We sat down, we would talk about whatever the questions you were. You'd had uh some books too to read, you know, I love the books. And so um, but we started having conversations at the appropriate age.
SPEAKER_01That's not really how I remember it. Um, but I appreciate uh you going through my grandmother's approach for sure, in terms of how uh she outlined it. I I don't really remember us having any conversations, particularly around sex. What I when I was younger, what I do remember is I had questions about just being a woman generally as it pertains to health, and then you being a resource for me to go to um to talk about that. So anything having to do with reproductive organs, anything that has to do with anything that hormones or or whatever I was going through at the time, I I did feel comfortable. Uh maybe it was because we had had a conversation, I'm just not remembering, right, coming to you. But then also I remember, yeah, you would just take me to professionals as well. A female OBGYN as well. I didn't know that there was a that you had made the choice that it's a female.
SPEAKER_02Right. But I mean that's because that's yeah, but um, and I I'm actually glad that uh it was sort of uh easy for you to feel like you know this wasn't something that was taboo for us to talk about. And it's it's necessary because in today's world, everything is just out there. I mean, kids can see anything and and and be engaged and not really understand their reproductive um organs.
SPEAKER_01And so uh before you started your period, I wanted to make sure you understood that your body was changing as you were really happy you gave me that that heads up because I was shocked. Yes, I was like, there is no way that women have to go through this every month. I didn't believe you, though. You were like, well, you you can believe me or not. Yes, exactly. Right. This was gonna I was like every woman in the world, every woman in the world. I don't know that I felt comfortable, I felt comfortable having health conversations with you. I don't know that I ever felt comfortable having sex conversations with you. Actually, only time I remember ever having a sex con, it wasn't even a whole conversation, it was just like a statement, then I think I ran away, was uh when I was uh when I got married and uh my husband my husband and I were getting ready to go on our honeymoon, and you were like, be fun sexually on your honeymoon. I was like, ah! And then I and that's again that was the last thing I remember about.
SPEAKER_02Well, because it it it truly is it's a freeing experience. I mean, we're not worried at this day and age about um pregnancy, but particularly if you're getting married, then you want to be able to experience things that you may not have experienced before. I mean, I just wanted you to um to enjoy the total experience.
SPEAKER_01I think it was a good approach to incorporate um healthcare providers um into just the ethos of it, because I remember a majority of my sex education came from my friends and the, you know, whatever dialogues we were having. And I feel like that that part hasn't changed. Maybe now there's like an element of social media in in it as well, which is a little terrifying.
SPEAKER_02And so um, but start having conversations um with your sons and daughters early on, because today everything is out there and there's not only curiosity, but also a lot of misinformation, especially in terms of the internet. And do it with your sons and daughters.
SPEAKER_01It's not all about just don't get pregnant, right? Yes, exactly. You know, yeah, although that advice could go for both like sons and daughters because they're yes, okay. So um, all right, so that addresses the the sex part of it. What about cultural issues?
SPEAKER_02I believe that um culturally, this was something that your grandfather had a big concern about. You remember that? Yeah, I do. Uh-huh. And and so um my dad was very concerned about uh Gonica knowing her cultural background and because I know that she's black. Well, that's exactly what he said. And I said, Well, of course she is. And he said, How? You're going to um you live in a white neighborhood at this point, you uh are sending her to a predominantly white school at this point. Um, the church that you all have chosen to go to now is a predominantly white church. I am concerned. And I said, but she is black, the family is black. We go to family reunions. We actually own a black formatted urban radio station. And so we go to all the different events, and I participate in a lot of cultural activities, both at her school and uh in in terms of the community, and she's right there with me. But he had a uh a concern about that. I love the fact that he was comfortable enough to say that to you.
SPEAKER_01Like I more than once. Oh, you're like, no, your grandparents had no issue whatsoever exactly how you needed to be barren to make the.
SPEAKER_02But I also wanted you to go to, I want you to go to HBCU. And so that was a part of what I thought. And I started talking about that when you were very young.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I mean, my from my perspective, um I don't this is what I can say. I I obviously you were the parent, and you're you, my father were the parent. So you are the ones that made the decision. And looking back, I think you all did an excellent job and instilling in me my blackness and what that meant and how important it was. And then going to an HBCU just, you know, put that on steroids, which was as amazing as one would want it to be. Um, however, I was around um other people, um, other black kids who were growing up in similar environments, that I don't know that their parents did it in the same way. And I did see the challenges that that caused in terms of their own identity kind of moving forward and um how they viewed themselves and how they loved themselves. And so the only thing I can really add in to that, because again, I wasn't a part of the decision making, I'm just enjoying the fruits of y'all's labor, um, is that the culture discussing cultural issues, racial issues is of primary importance um in a childhood in a child's life because it has ramifications moving forward. And like even if it's even if it doesn't feel good or it feels awkward, um kind of like the sex stuff, like just try to have it anyway and just know that that should be a part of like the overall parenting of it all because it it shows up in crazy ways.
SPEAKER_02It does try to do it anyway because it's really not about your life at that time, it is about your child. It's not about your discomfort. Well, no, because it it's important for young people to uh experience truth with their parents. It's important for young people to be able to ask the questions. And I often talked about um with with friends, I'd be driving the car, and you and a friend would be in the in the backseat, and you all would be talking about something. And because your friends thought I was a cool mom, you all could just talk and I would be grabbing the steering wheel thinking, don't stay anything. Really? Don't stay. Oh, that's horrible. Because it's important for you all to feel comfortable, and it's important for me to still have that relationship with you. And then I was blessed to have some of your friends and some of my play daughters to be able to have those conversations too, and not to feel like you're gonna close me out because I I don't think we knew you could hear us.
SPEAKER_01I don't think it has anything to do with I think that's oh yeah, I think we'd probably be mortified by the fact that we I didn't knew that you were I did not say a word until either you asked me a question later on or it was appropriate.
SPEAKER_02Now I might have gone home and talked to one of my girlfriends. Oh my god, you know what they said?
SPEAKER_01No. That's funny. That's funny. Um, okay, so yeah, okay, so I think we answered that that question in totality. Perfect. Okay, so the next one comes from formal plum 2285. And this person says, My mom and I are about the same ages as you all. She did the 68 protests and burned her bras and smoked a lot of weed before I was born. And that's probably the biggest difference. My mom actually uses way more advanced technology than I do. She's an architect. Um, then she says, There's not actually a huge age gap between you two. I mean, you are 45. First of all, I'm not 45. Right. Right. I'm for and I just turned 40. Instead of the aging, but let's not let's not brush it. You know what I mean? Okay, okay. I understand. But were you around in the 68 protests? I mean, you were still a teenager.
SPEAKER_02I was yeah, um, I was uh yeah, I was in high school. Okay. So I was aware. Um, I was aware of the riots. Um actually the summer of 68, um, that was the summer I went to France, and I was so blessed to be able to um to go on that trip. Yeah. However, because I was uh a black uh American going to France, people kept asking me if I was trying to escape the riots that were taking place in my country. And I thought that was the strangest thing. And then I would look at um the news there, try to understand the news because it's all in France. It was very different. It's covered differently, I mean. Yes, absolutely. Um, so I I was aware of the protests going on. When I came back home, I was also very aware that this was um this is a sea change for black people. And because um mom and dad were involved in in protests and and uh mommy went to the march in Washington, it was a challenging time for young people to understand what our world was doing, what our world was saying, how our world was being um racist and communicating all of that. So, yes, um I was aware, um, but I was not participating yet.
SPEAKER_01What role did you having activists, I was gonna say activist mother, but really activist parents play, if any, like in terms of you growing up? It allows it sounds like this person that their mother will, I mean, she's burning bras and smoking weed and having fun. Yeah, well, having fun, but also making a statement about her womanhood, particularly in the 60s and into the 70s.
SPEAKER_02I believe that the important role was uh you must be a part of the solution. You can't expect somebody else to help solve the problem. So you need to be uh an activist on your own level. So take your skill sets, do what it is you can do, but make sure you're always speaking out for who we are, what we are, and what we're all about. And so, in in terms of my role, then having um businesses and being in communications, I was always in the forefront, making sure that my voice was heard and that I'm going to get in the room. See, you can't change things if you're outside the door. So I would come up with a strategy to make sure I could get to the table, and then quietly I would decide exactly what I needed to do. Come out of the room and maybe talk to the people about what's going on in the room. Um, maybe I would sit there and come up with a strategy of how I was going to be a part of the solution, but I wanted to make sure my voice was heard.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, perfect. Um, Nanny Lenny says, I love you all. I will be 74 in a couple of months. My youngest daughter will be 40 in July. Love, love, love. Oh, thank you. We love you too.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, we appreciate it. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Great age, let me tell you, and it's just getting better. It's just getting better. Yes.
SPEAKER_01And I get the huge generational difference thing. Did everyone think you all out? Did everyone think you also had an old mom growing up? Oh, yes, I sure did.
SPEAKER_02Oh yes, yes, yes. It would be so funny. We would be at a school event and they think, oh, that's so sweet. Her grandparents came. Oh, really? And I'm thinking, what? What? Well, you know, you're four or five years old, and we're in our late 30s, and so it was very interesting. And I remember telling your father uh at one point, and my hair wasn't starting to get gray, but I said, you know, I'm not gonna have gray hair because they already, you know, I'm already thinking that um that I was older. But um the fun part for for me uh was to have been at an age where I could really do the kind of things that I wanted to do with you and for you. And so I I think that was one of the reasons why um waiting to to be able to have children and to also making sure that um the resources were there to to do those kind of things. But you're absolutely right. And then I got tired, you know. The reason why you have your kids in your in your 20s and maybe in your early 30s is the fact that it's a lot of work, even when you only have one. But you know, I was a lot of work. Children are a lot of work, like you don't have to personalize the daughter and children across the board. It it's a true blessing, and uh, and I'm glad, and it wasn't the plan just to have one, it's just that's the way it worked out in in uh our universe. I yes, I know you've said that you've you said that often. Uh, there was a time when we did try to uh uh adopt a little boy, and that didn't end up working out um for us. But I think ultimately what I can say is that being an older adult, you you have some wisdom, you have some you have some age on you, but you also need to understand that the the honest to goodness truth is that it's a lot of work and you cannot, you cannot act like it's something that's just one of the other pastimes that you have. You need to be intentional.
SPEAKER_01I didn't experience you as an old mom. Of course, now I didn't know that you were going home and having a nap. You know, I was in privy to all to all of that. But I mean, because you were energetic, you were there, you were present. I mean, it's just um I knew that I had a working mom because some of my friends had moms that stayed at home. So that part I was aware of. But in terms of the age thing, no, because you were right there, um, which was a which was a cool thing. I actually, I mean, this trend of older moms, if you will, it's just it's growing bigger and bigger as women are waiting longer and longer into their certainly into their 40s, you know, and have kids.
SPEAKER_02Back in the in the 70s, surrounded by people that wanted to know, you know, when are you gonna have a child? And oh my goodness, you know, are you going to well that part doesn't suffer women, at least it hasn't yet. I I don't, yeah, I don't know. Uh yeah, friend just gave me an article that said uh someone had a child, she was 53. And you know, so women are having them older and older.
SPEAKER_01So hard on the body, but okay. Um we have several of these, so this will be the last one for this particular episode. But again, uh stay tuned, tune in next week, and we'll we're gonna read some more. Um, but Silly Advocate says, What do you think of Gen Z? And you if I may, you're like, Gen Z, and I was like, It's your son-in-law's age. But you have a millennial, totally different generation than um the the age at which you're well, I'm gonna let you answer that first. What do you think of Gen Z? What do I think of Gen Z? Um, I actually find that to I don't know if my husband's representative. Well, he has a young spirit. He does. He has a young spirit. Yeah, yeah, he does. So I don't know that we have a ton uh, I mean, we we that we look at the world very, very differently. I mean, obviously he's had more life experience than I have, and he talks about things in the in the 80s and 90s culture, and I was like, well, I was in preschool, so I don't totally know exactly like I remember hearing about it. Um, and then when I think about okay, outside of like personally, what about uh like in the workforce have I seen like big differences? And I would say for me, the larger differences have been between uh millennials and baby boomers. I don't know that as a millennial, I feel so much um of a difference to to my Gen Z counterparts.
SPEAKER_02I think the Gen Gen Z workforce um was something different. It was the first time that I realized that the work ethic had changed somewhat. Um and go on, but what does that mean? Well, it it it meant that um there was uh a desire for my Gen Z employees to have uh a little bit more work um work-life balance work home balance uh I also saw uh men participating in fatherhood in a more um progressive and aggressive way um and I think the other part of the the Gen Z generation is they started having more technology experience and actually were very interested in the technology. You weren't interested? Um no oh you're like we had this like exactly you know we we had computers we knew what to do with it but um so I I think that was probably uh a plus factor but it was also an eye-opening experience that the world is moving faster than it had been in the past on it.
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